I will say - my personal opinion is slavery was horrible. It was a crime against humanity but to understand it better, one must READ and look at what was going on at the time. How many black people do you think even know it was their OWN tribes, their own people who tortured, beat, and kidnapped them to bring them to slave traders? And even BEFORE the Europeans even landed in Africa so don't go blaming the Europeans for drumming up the business. The African slave trade was in full force amongst its own tribes and people well before the Europeans ever got to Africa. So, my question is - why don't black people in America ever get pissed about that? I'm only talking about those black people who constantly think of themselves as victims to white oppression because of slavery. They were oppressed originally because of their own people! It was wrong for Europeans to look at people as property but that's how it was back then. You can't continue to blame all white people for this.
How man black people in American do you think know that it was their OWN PEOPLE who sold them into slavery?
You're right of course. The truth of the matter is that more whites have an accurate account of slavery and its factual history than blacks. So many blacks are ready to jump on the race band wagon and cry and accuse whites for this and that. Truth be told, most blacks can't even name 6 African countries.In a recent survey 3 out of 10 hishschool blacks think African is a country rather than a continent. It amazes me how people on here talk about things like they are educating others and meanwhile they dont know WTF they are talking about.
*seetheworld*, you really should read some history books yourself before you start making accusations and attempt to correct others. Africans have been beating, torturing and enslaving fellow Africans for years upon years. Africa is one of the most hostile places in the world where civil war and radical militia groups flourish.
Reply:What you say here is true, and to boot, the tribal leadeers only sold off the ones that were too lazy to contribute to the well being of the individual tribes, or criminals, and we ended up with them.
One other thought, if not for the free ride to America, just how many now here would still be in Africa, running like hell to stay off the food chain from man eating animals?
Reply:what african tribes had between eachother cant COMPARE between what the europeans did to african american.. all countries have there little slave traders.. wars.. etc.. but nothing compares to the amount of segregation and crap we had to put up with from europeians.. we came a far way from that and i think u need to educate yourself on what REALLY happend cause.. seems to me u just red half a page about what went on! .. and to be honest it isnt wrong for a black person to blame white people because it is there fault.. we had to go through years of talk and.. pain.. and loss.. to get to where we are today.. simple as that.. nothing justifies it as right!
Reply:Good question- it was other Africans and the Arabs who sold them into slavery...
Reply:Ok, what you're saying is right - but the difference is that we exploited what was going on *within* their culture for our own evil purposes. So whatever was happening between different tribes was exploited by us and it got shockingly out of hand - and saying "oh it's your own fault" like you are doing is really disgusting
Reply:but slavery was legal then. it is still legal in some countries.....
take Cuba or Burmudia for example........
Reply:I'm sure they all know it, they just won't admit it.
Reply:Again, this is a valid question based on proven facts.
But, people are too angry to try to understand your viewpoint and honestly answer your question.
EDIT: seetheworld, I guess Rwanda is really just a misunderstood paradise then!
Reply:Good Lord child..........get over this crap already. It's in the past. As long as I'm alive, it won't ever happen around me.
Reply:Would one hate their mother for doing terrible things to them? Probably not forever. Would one hate a stranger for doing the same to them? Yes! You would hate his/her guts until death. It's all about your blood line :)
Reply:Even if their own people sold them into slavery, that gave no right for white people to purchase them and use them as their slaves for hundreds of years.
And these people only did it for money. They wouldn't have done it if the white men didn't have a demand for them in the first place.
And a hundred or so years after slavery began, most slaves were born and sold in this country, not overseas. By 'white' people, not there own people.
You can't say they were "originally oppressed by their own people". You don't know that. Even if they were, it doesn't matter! Why would they care? It can't even compare to the hundreds of years they were oppressed by the 'white men'.
And it isn't the same thing. The African people who DID sell there own people into slavery did because of money(not that it makes it right) It not the same as the white people, who saw black people as being inhuman and even as animals, and thought slavery was their right of passage. Which is completely inexcusable!
And finally. What does this matter? Slavery have been done an over with. Therefore, you can't hold anyone accountable from the past! What is the necessity of bringing it up????
♥Tasha
Reply:Of course slavery is a object of a uncivilized people. Primitive tribes and societies like that almost always have slaves. What was wrong is the civilized and educated Europeans for propagating such a travesty such as slavery.
Reply:very good point i've thought of that before.
Reply:about a 1000! but it could be more then that
Reply:Sure, but its the treatment that was different. Europeans/Americans treated their slaves wayyy worse.
Reply:I think you got your answer from Seethew that they do not know . Blacks don't study history back that far. They also do not realize that Lincoln did not intend for them to remain here. It was his intention to return them to their homeland.
Blacks were not the only slaves. Many people came to America to escape slavery.
Reply:"You can't continue to blame all white people for this" .. and then he turns around blames all Africans saying "... it was their OWN tribes, their own people who tortured, beat, and kidnapped them to bring them to slave traders?... The African slave trade was in full force amongst its own tribes and people well before the (he's talking now about an entire continent)". It's amazing!
"imrather.." we will always be glad about people like you. There's hope in this world. Thaks you all who came to our rescue when the finger pointers began their game. It's exactly the sam thing that they have done to Africans, blaming us for all our problems when we know that people have supplied arms and ammunition and been involved in several conflicts down there. It is a sick game. So sick.
Reply:Thank you for finally shedding light on this. So many people whites included think it was all the whites who were involved in slave trading. I hope everyone reads your question and thinks hard about it and puts the blame where it belongs.
Reply:I doubt they come into contact with a lot of African tribesman in their local cities. The people who perpetuated the slave trade were not from Africa. And I think it's more about the discrimination they faced for such a long time during and after slavery. Not that I support putting the blame on white people for something their ancestors did a long time ago, but I certainly wouldn't put the blame on Africans either. I really wouldn't put blame on anyone. That part of history is over, there are still negative effects but as soon as we get over ourselves and stop talking and thinking and constantly worrying about the race issue it will go away.
Reply:i guess alot of people didnt now...and people did that only for money??? like how could
Reply:There was a special on the slave trade on the History Channel. They said white people rarely went into the African interior and slaves were usually captured by waring tribes.
Reply:Tortured, Beat, and Kidnapped?!!!
What book are you reading?
You dont know anything about Africa do you?
and most whites who agree with this is just as ignorant
as he is..and it proves you dont know anything about HIS-STORY
EDIT:
LMAO!!!!!
WHITE PEOPLE DONT KNOW WTF
THEIR TALKING ABOUT!!!!
why answer a question if you dont know
about his-story
what kind of ignoramus do you have to be?!!!
EDIT:
Stuart Appleton III*
What does Rwanda have to do with
the entire oppression on the black race
and massacre of over 200 million blacks you i.diot!!!
Were not talking about some mass genocide in central Africa.
LMAO so Rwanda is part of the slave trade?
please tell me more about his-story?
Furthermore...
why does your avatar
change from black to white?
Reply:NOT ALL OF THEM WANTED IT. AND THEY DIDN'T EXPECT ALL THE OUTCOMES. THEY SOLD THEM SELF BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY'D BE MAKING MONEY AND HAVING SOMETHING TO DO. WHAT ABOUT THIS QUESTION: DID YOU KNOW THAT AFRICA HAS BEEN PRACTICALLY RUINED BECAUSE WITH ALL THE SLAVERY AND RACISM TOWARDS THEM, THEY COULDN'T CREATE A GOVERNMENT AND AN ADVANCED SOCIETY?!
please... answer THAT.
(sorry to other answerers for all caps!)
Reply:I agree with you that people who really understand the totality of slavery should know that there were some Africans who contributed to the slave trade. There were also a lot of other races that were involved. However, when you start to get on the subject of why some blacks are upset about the idea of slavery and wondering why they think as themselves as victims you have to understand something. Although it was some Africans that took part in the slave trade it was white opression during slavery that caused most of the pain and suffering. Also, it was the injustice and mistreatment of the black race after slavery that adds to peoples feeling of being a victim. And when you talk about black people being mad at Europeans for drumming up the idea you overlook the fact that the Europeans did not do anything to stop the trade and they were a major driving force in the trade. Nobody is blaming all white people for slavery. However, we should not be obligated to act like it never happened, or be forced to ignore the consequences of the slave trade that have led to some of the mentality and mistreatment that we still deal with today. Its good to know that we agree on the idea that slavery was horrible.
Reply:I totally agree with you and if there was more reading you would see that the africans were asked if they wanted to go back to africa and they said no!!! so If africans want to think they are victims to "white oppression" Its your ancestors fault they shoulda gone back or Maybe you should live somewhere other than america If you dont like it so much.
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